June 30, 2004

Happy Canada Day

Mandos (email) at 11:20 PM

Happy Canada Day. Don't worry that this appears on June 30th—I am posting this from a decent time zone, and it is definitely July 1.

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Obligatory funny Tony Valeri picture

Mandos (email) at 07:43 PM

Long ago in blog time, I promised a picture of Tony Valeri. Now that he has been defeated, it is more important and relevant than ever. Isn't a perfect picture for a screen saver or desktop wallpaper?

Tony Valeri scowl

As Nelson from the Simpsons might put it, "Ha ha." All that ousting-Sheila-Copps effort for nothing.

As for those who would criticize me for being shallow and making fun of a politician's appearance, all I can say is that I am not Kim Campbell. *Nelson laugh again*

Update: A reader puts egg on my face by pointing out that Valeri was narrowly elected. However, it was still rather narrow, and they lost Hamilton Centre, all because of him. So I will still Nelson-laugh at him, while you Nelson-laugh at me.

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July 20, 2004 10:56 AM: "Wild Child Raised by Chickens" posted in response at Bow. James Bow..

June 29, 2004

Personal Privilege

Chris Jones (email) at 11:43 PM

Given the cream pie slinging match that seems to have broken out between Mandos and Mr. Hirji, supra ad nauseum, I thought it appropriate to bring to the POlloI's attention (via Crescat Sententia) Amber Taylor's one-woman Kissing Day crusade. While Ms. Taylor restricts her call to the United States, I move that this House declare July 6th to be International Kissing Day and that members of this House take every effort possible to aid and encourage its celebration.

As a personal note, gentle readers who wish to assist in this noble cause can reach me at the email address noted above: offers of help in celebrating International Kissing Day will not be churlishly refused.

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Harper and the Zen of Mustafa

Mandos (email) at 11:26 PM

Shorter Mustafa Hirji:

"Harper slipped on a banana peel. But that's OK. Because Harper meant to slip on a banana peel. I know he meant to slip on a banana peel, because he did."

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Colby's Commentary

Chris Jones (email) at 11:15 PM

Due to the change in seat projections between when he recorded his piece for CBC and when it would have been broadcast, MotherCorp didn't broadcast his commentary on the electoral results. The last paragraph stands out:

Alberta gets the message: only its chequebook is wanted in Confederation, not its voice. And meanwhile, the Bloc Quebecois, by happenstance, may have been excluded from the pivotal role in power which had been forecast for it. If you thought the country was divided before this election, this redneck wants you to know you ain't seen nothin' yet.

He promises to elaborate further on his blog this week. I look forward to reading it.

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Apanges? Orples?

Mandos (email) at 10:48 PM

First of all, after reading your rather condescending and unnecessary economics lesson, it occurs to me that we have been reading quite different articles. In the article that I am reading, David Frum is making the argument that the greater part of the growth in the economy is accounted for by an increase in the size of the government as opposed to an increase in the size of the total of personal incomes with respect to the GDP. He sets up this line of argument here:

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Marc on Economics

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 06:31 PM

Marc Dumouchel wades into our little economics debate.

First off Marc argues that I'm jumping to the assumption of there being a tax increase.

What we know is, government revenue increases underperformed GDP growth by 22% (67-45) and personal income increases underperformed GDP growth by 36% (67-31).  What we don’t know is if the two are linked.  Where did the missing 22% and 36% go?  There must be another form of national income involved in this analysis. Frum doesn’t talk about this, even in passing. 

Instead, Frum draws a direct link between the 31%/45% distinction and taxes, implying that the difference must be due to higher taxes.  That is a possibility, but it is not proven by these numbers.  Again, you’d need a fuller accounting of where the missing percentages went.

Fair Enough. There were many cases of small tax increases from 1994-2000 or so. Knowing this, I assumed Frum was right being an economist and all. But, yes, I am making the assumption that there is a link between the tax increases that were made and the inconsistency in rise of personal incomes with government revenues.

As for CPP not being a tax, I don't think you're right. For starters, not everyone is eligible to recollect their CPP. Moreover, CPP premiums collected today are used to pay for today's CPP recipients. It isn't stored away for our use. So in the mid-1990s, the increase in CPP premiums wasn't for us so much as to bolster the system for the impending baby boomer retirement. Though I should note, I'm vague on what I've read about CPP over the years. It has been a while.

And finally, on the subject of your lower tax bill, Frum's numbers were pulled over the 1993-2003 period. It's quite possible that his argument doesn't hold over the 2001-2003 peroid. Though it is possible that the Janaury 2001 tax cut didn't make up for the tax increases over the 1990s. Though I really have no idea. As well, remember that your lower tax bill could be the result of Provincial tax cuts.

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A Little More on Social Conservatism

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 04:41 PM

A couple of comments in reply to Ian Welsh.

  1. Ian is probably right that the presence of social conservatives will always scare Ontarions. I think Harper will get them to keep quiet next campaign by showing them the damage they’re doing. Harper has long been of the opinion that statements will be read in a way that’s simplistic and ignores the subtleties of the issue. That is, if you talk about private health care (which is the status quo—30% of health care is private) voters will interpret it incorrectly to mean two-tier health care. If you talk about minor changes to language legislation, voters will interpret it to be ending official bilingualism. Likewise when you talk about free votes on hot-button issues, voters will assume the worst.

    Before the 1993 election, Harper issued a Reform Party memo to candidates telling them that voters are uninformed and apathetic. They will read into the party the impression they get from you as a person. Project responsibility and common sense. Be congenial. I think this will be along the lines of what Harper does. He’ll try to keep these people on message so there are no more accusations of hidden agendas or party policies supporting hidden agendas. Then Harper will talk about supporting the rights of MPs presenting the issue in a way that doesn’t scare voters.

  2. I don’t think the Conservatives have that strong of a social conservative bent. It may be a majority, but a bare one. Many, if not most, of their MPs are pretty moderate on social issues these days. This isn’t a motley band of rural westerners any more. It’s a professional party and save some rural members, a lot are now socially moderate. And any newly elected members in Ontario, Quebec, or the marintimes would be as well. If we had a free vote on abortion or same sex marriage with a Conservative majority, I don’t think the social conservatives would win. Of course, after such an experience one wonders if they wouldn’t just give up on the party altogether. Maybe giving them their free vote will be enough to cause them to leave.

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Economic Theory 101

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 04:17 PM

Welcome to class Mandos. We have a lot to cover, so let's begin.

The sum of all things produced in a country is the GDP. Since money is conserved, all this money has to go to someone or something. Some of it goes into government coffers. Some into private bank accounts as salary income. Some is acquired by companies. Some is invested. Some leaves the country (e.g. through trade deficits). There are many things that can happen.

Now, your friend Brad is right that the total amount of the GDP flowing to government coffers has decreased. But that's not the point Frum is making. Frum is arguing that more has flowed into government coffers than into people's bank accounts. And that's where the 31% v. 45% comes from. Of course, this simply means that both people and government are getting less of the GDP. But it doesn't refute that the people aren't getting less than the government. That's why I said to look at what each the people and the government are getting in increases and not to be distracted by these other numbers. Those numbers are correct. They don't tell us anything about the relative division of the GDP between the people and the governement.

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June 29, 2004 05:59 PM: "you can't ignore where the rest of the 67% went" posted in response at The Backroom Brief.

Harper's Strategy, Social Conservaties, and Harper's Philosophy on Political Parties

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 03:07 PM

Everyone is talking about how Harper threw away the election by campaigning unenthusiastically down the stretch. I strongly suspect this was Harper's strategy. He wasn't going to get a majority. And in a minority, he's have no support for his platform save a few items where he'd be no different from the Liberals (e.g. health care, pharmacare). If Harper had been PM in a minority, he'd have seen his government fall or he'd have compromised all the Conservative's distinctive policies away. Either way, he'd look weak going back to the electorate next election.

Moreover, as PM he'd get to the bottom of adscam and then he'd deal with it, clean up government, and improve financial oversight. Anger over adscam would subside—the issue would be finished with and the Conservatives would have to find a new angle to campaign on. Not an easy task. Especially since the Liberal Party may well have been led by John Manley by that point and Manley would, more convincingy than Martin, dismiss the scandal on his predecessor.

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June 29, 2004 03:29 PM: "Harper's Big Tent" posted in response at Tilting at Windmills.

Apples and oranges

Mandos (email) at 12:39 PM

This is the crux of Frum's argument:

"Where did that extra production go? That’s the question answered by the second number, 45%. The lion’s share of Canadian economic growth in the 1990s was pocketed by government, especially the federal government. Between 1993 and 2003, federal revenues rose by 45%, or almost $60 billion.
Hmm. "Lion's share." This is the crux of DeLong's argument:
To put it another way, Frum's numbers imply that Canadian federal revenues were 18% of GDP in 1993, and are only 16% of GDP today. If politicians Frum liked had been in power over those years, he would now be ferociously and loudly roaring about the conservative policies that have successfully shrunk the relative size of government.

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OneCard Transaction History

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 12:14 PM

So, the OneCard web site lets me run a database report that shows every single OneCard deposit or payment I've made.

It's mildly disturbing to me that the University knows things about me that I don't. For example, the University knew that I deposited $5 onto my OneCard on February 9, 2000 and I didn't until a couple of minute ago.

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Economic Wealth Distribution Continued

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 11:48 AM

Mandos is correct to argue that the proper distribution of new revenues is a legitimate policy question as is the level of taxes a legitimate policy question. However, I was trying to point out the incorrect analysis of Frum's position by showing that he is correct in arguing that government took more of the economy's growth than people and that Martin held people's income down through taxation. When I wrote, Normally, the people and the government should have become richer by the same amount, I mean that if all other variables are held constant, both the people and the government should see equal rises in income. Whether or not this is a good thing or a bad thing is up for debate. All I'm pointing out is that it is what happened contrary to earlier remarks by Brad DeLong and Mandos.

However, I'll admit that my reference to "fair" share does expose my personal stance on this matter. I should have used a value-neutral phrase like "normal share."

As for boondogles, I'll freely say that most of the extra revenue collected wasn't wasted or stolen. But some of it was. Taxing people, many of whom need that money to get by, and then wasting it, giving it to friends, and stealing it is reprehensible.

My argument is simply as follows

  1. The government increased taxes over the course of 1993-2003 increasing government revenue more than the personal incomes of Canadians. Frum's argument, despite its biased rhetorical flourish, is correct.
  2. Some of this money was wasted, given to friends of the Liberal Party, and pocketed by politicians. As such, taxes should not have been raised as much as they were.

My value judgement on statement #1 is statement #2. Implying a "fair share" was a faux pas on my part and I appologize for that lapse.

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Justifying distributions

Mandos (email) at 10:45 AM

Mustafa writes:

Normally, the people and the government should have become richer by the same amount. We didn't because the government raised taxes on us to take away our fair share. And the Liberals then used much of our fair share on boondogles, their friends, and themselves.
This is a peculiar assertion. Why should the government and the people have become richer by the same amount, exactly? Why shouldn't some of the fruits of growth be taken in larger measure sometimes by the government? That's a matter of policy.

You may be right that it all went in boondoggles. I don't know if that much money went into true boondoggles. I'm skeptical. Nevertheless, your and Frum's argument means very little on its own—the government taking a larger share doesn't indicate anything about financial management, and is simply based on a purely rhetorical construct of "fair share" divorced from legitimate policy discussion.

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We Did Lose out on Economic Growth

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 10:19 AM

Mandos points us to Brad DeLong who argues that Frum has made, at best, a rhetorical flourish to state that the federal government took the "lion's share" of new economic production in Canada over the past ten years. I won't argue with Mr. DeLong and Mandos here. That's a pretty huge and biased bit of political spin.

But the core of Frum's argument holds. The economy grew by 67%. The value of what was in Canada grew by 67%. People saw their revenues increase by 31%. At the same time though, the government's revenue rose by 45%. So the government acquired more of the benefits of economic growth than did the people. (Where'd the rest go? I don't know the Canadian economy well enough to know this. Some was lost in trade deficits for sure. I'll defer to someone else to give a proper accounting of this.)

Normally, the people and the government should have become richer by the same amount. We didn't because the government raised taxes on us to take away our fair share. And the Liberals then used much of our fair share on boondogles, their friends, and themselves.

Don't get distracted by the absolute values. Those are correct data, but they explain other things. What Frum was arguing was the benefit people vis-a-vis the government got from economic growth and the absolute values are skewed when interpreting this by such factors as population growth. The percentage growths of our income and the govenrment's income is the most direct way to view our relative growths in income. And that story is 31% for us, 45% for the government.

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Frum's nincompoopery; American interest; Fafblog

Mandos (email) at 08:24 AM

Mustafa Hirji quotes David Frum in his pre-election diatribe against Paul Martin. Whatever Martins qualities or lack thereof, Frum's criticisms are challenged by economist Brad DeLong.

To put it another way, Frum's numbers imply that Canadian federal revenues were 18% of GDP in 1993, and are only 16% of GDP today. If politicians Frum liked had been in power over those years, he would now be ferociously and loudly roaring about the conservative policies that have successfully shrunk the relative size of government.
What can you expect from the Notional Pest?

On another note, the Daily Kos was covering the Canadian election. (Some more threads further back.) Unfortunately, they have disabled trackbacks—they used to allow them.

And on yet another completely different note, Fafblog once again best characterizes the "turnover" of power in Iraq. Happy Birthday Iraq:

And then he floated off in a big balloon, and Iraq clicked the heels on the slippers it had gotted from the Wicked Dictator of the East together three times an said "theres no place like sovereignty, theres no place like sovereignty" and disappeared in a puff of pixie dust! I read that it is true it was in Reuters.

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The Winners and the Loser

Chris Jones (email) at 01:41 AM

Well, much of the dust has settled, but we can expect a handful of recounts that might well change the balance of power, so bear in mind that as this was written, the results were Liberals, 135; Conservatives plus Cadman (who'll rejoin the caucus as soon as possible), 100; Bloc, 54; NDP, 19. Very interesting numbers indeed, and here's why....

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On Proportional Representation

Master of the Rolls (email) at 01:16 AM

While I'm not as skeptical as other here about PR (I'm not entirely sure that Political Parties are necessarily a bad thing) I do think it could be worth a try. While my ideal would be to have a PR EEE Senate, coupled with a FTP Commons (sort of like Australia), I don't think we're going to see that any time soon. I'd also think that any type of PR system in Canada would have to be of the mixed variety (like New Zealand's, for example). I've found it quite amusing at the various fora throughout this campaign watching the various candidates spout platitudes about "representing constituents" and the need for PR in the same breath. One problem I'd see with it is denying voters the opportunity to punish a leader by defeating them in their own riding. Some of the highlights this time around were watching Martin and Layton trailing in the early polls in their ridings (likewise, I'm sure if you were a Liberal or NDPer in Alberta in 1989, watching Don Getty go down in Whitemud was probably kind of funny). But maybe that's just my inner spite talking. With PR, party leaders would be virtually guaranteed seats based on a reasonable percentage of the vote, as they'd likely opt to be high list candidates. And really, if the party leader can't be a good constituency politician, should they really be leader at all?

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FPTP Injustice

Mandos (email) at 12:45 AM

Note well that the NDP has a greater share of the popular vote than the Bloc. Then why should it have less than half the seats? You may respond, "Them's the breaks! They didn't work hard enough to get the right constituencies." But this response misses the forest for the trees. The NDP is a "class-based party"; it seeks to represent disadvantaged groups and those who support their interests. These people have a common interest predominant in their views that does not directly relate to their geographical locations.

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Speaking too soon

Mandos (email) at 12:22 AM

Hmm. It looks like the NDP may fall just barely short of the balance of power. We still have to wait and see. I suspect there may be recounts.

...oh, wait, maybe not. The CBC and the Globe and Mail are giving conflicting results. This is quite a roller-coaster ride, even up to the last minute!

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Still a one-party state, sort of

Mandos (email) at 12:16 AM

So. It looks like everyone was wrong about this election. I didn't make a seat prediction, because I thought it was folly. And it was.

The biggest winners in all of this were Paul Martin and Gilles Duceppe. But I guess Paul Martin was the bigger winner. Just when everyone was fortelling his demise, he went and grabbed himself the closest thing he could to a majority. He took a big bite out of the NDP seats (due to close races) and a big bite out of the Reformatory seats and votes (the NDP popular vote remained at almost what polls expected it to be). If results remain stable, he has his pick of coalition partners. Stéphane Dion ruled out the Bloc as a coalition partner, but that's just Dion, the Bloc nemesis talking. But it appears that the Liberal Party will have an effective majority, since it can make alliances issue by issue with each party. It managed to prevent the Bloc from getting the previously predicted 60 seats, keeping it basically to the "high-water mark" of Lucien Bouchard's original victory.

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June 28, 2004

Martin Being a Weasel, Addendum

Master of the Rolls (email) at 04:22 PM

So, Paul Martin tells us that his stance on the definition of marriage (which is what, by the way?) is "an issue of rights". Fair enough. However, unlike Layton and Harper, he has failed to clearly articulate where he actually stands on the issue. Furthermore, he seems to be taking the upcoming reference for granted. While appellate courts in BC, Ontario and Quebec have all struck down the traditional definition of marriage, that's by no means a guarantee that the SCC will necessarily come to the same conclusion (or for the same reasons). If provincial courts of appeal were always the last word on these matters, no wouldn't always mean no, homosexuality wouldn't be considered an analogous ground of discrimination in Alberta Human Rights Legislation, and battered women's syndrome would not be recognised as a defence . The whole purpose of having a Supreme Court is that it offers the final answer. When that court has yet to render that answer (in part due to Martin's amending the question) then it is a bit presumptuous to assume what it is going to be in advance, regardless what some of the Appellate Courts have said at the provincial level (yet another reason why perhaps a better solution would have been for the government to appeal one of the original judgments, instead of declining to appeal and then launching a reference case). Furthermore, Martin doesn't really explain what he'll do if it comes back that both a change to the definition and the traditional definition pass constitutional muster. We know what Layton will do, he would change the definition. We also know what Harper would do: well, he'd actually withdraw the reference and have a free vote on it, but apparently he'd personally vote for the traditional definition. Martin's actual stance still remains unclear, however. And this all gets more interesting when we find out shortly who exactly is going to be appointing those two Ontario vacancies that are still outstanding...

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Private Enterprise, cont'd.

Nicholas Tam (email) at 03:20 PM

In the discussion concerning the extent of privatization offered spaceflight in the Star Trek model of the universe, Chris Jones suggests that non-governmental starships may indeed be a presence (supra, Ad Astra Per Privatus), but a peripheral one due to the dramatic focus on vehicles of exploration in true pioneer spirit. But upon a consideration of both the commercial vision of the twenty-third and twenty-fourth centuries and the historical precedents of naval strategy, it becomes increasingly clear the United Federation of Planets is indeed only sustainable under a big-government model.

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Reply to Mandos

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 02:40 PM

1. Corruption may be better than malice. But you've failed to proove the malice of the Conservatives. And I don't see that Trojan Horse declaration.

2. First, Alberta isn't the heartland of reactionary and regressive movements. We've been at the leading edge of progressive policies for years. We were the first province to let women vote. We were the first province to have female legislators and a female cabinet minister. I believe Alberta had individual rights protections legislation before other provinces.

Today we still have the best health care system in the country. The best k-12 education system in the country. The lowest unemployment. Albertans are financially better off than most Canadians. And we pay a near majority of the money into the equalization program helping others in other provinces. That's hardly regressive and reactionary.

Second, being socially conservative and individual-focused does not make us bad people. Social conservatism is a legitimate value to hold. Individuality is a legitimate value to hold. They aren't against the law, they don't violate anyone's rights. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong.

And third, our provincial government is our problem. If we decide we don't like it, we'll deal with it. And remember, the only reason the PC wins here is because the Liberals and NDs are so useless in this province. There's nothing institutional that's stopping them.

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Election Pearls of Wisdom

Mandos (email) at 01:10 PM

Well, well. So they come out of the woodwork :)

On this election day, it's too much for me to deal with every one of the points brought up by Chris and Mustafa. But I will leave you with some Pearls of Wisdom. Then I will go vote. I am happy, this time. This is the first time ever in any election where the candidate I vote for will actually win. I am counting university elections, high school elections, etc, etc.

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Predictions

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 10:33 AM

For those who haven't heard, my seat predictions are as follows:

100 Liberal
130 Conservative
60 Bloc Quebecois
17 NDP
0 Green
1 Independant (Cadman)

I firmly believe that Harper will surprise many people and do better than everyone is expecting.

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Why I Hate Paul Martin with a Passion

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 04:19 AM

Those who know me know I hate the Liberals and especially Paul Martin (well, that's not quite true—hate is a weak word to describe my feelings on that man). Today I saw a couple of articles that help me explain my position on Martin so I thought I'd share it.

The first piece is this editorial on Martin's campaign tactics lately. It summarizes the classic anti-Alberta edge to Liberal campaigns.

In the other article, David Frum comments on the Liberal economic record under Chretien and Martin. It is a superb article and I'd encourage you all to read the whole thing. But for those who don't, here are a few highlights. Afterwards, I share my thoughts.

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Martin and Cramming

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 03:01 AM

An amusing quote by Stephen Harper,

"I see today that Paul Martin is flying all over the place, rushing around like a guy who didn't go to class and is now cramming for the final exam.

"He's confusing movement with momentum."

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Why Martin Can't Turn Things Around

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 02:55 AM

I apologize I haven't been posting recently. I've been busy with keeping up with the news, organizing my life, and some other projects and when going a week with about 3 hours of sleep a night, posting hasn't been a priority. I'm not quite ready to come back yet, but I thought I'd make an appearance.

People have been asking why Martin couldn't turn around the results in this election despite all the problems with the Conservatives and their radical statements, so I though I'd give my explanation.

Paul Martin is famous for slaying the deficit. Paul Martin, despite his massive tax increases over his years as Prime Minister, made a very public and high-profile tax cut in October 2000 just before the election call. Paul Martin was often (incorrectly) seen as someone who'd almost fit with the Reform Party. Everyone think Paul Martin is a right-winger.

When Paul Martin became leader of the Liberals, we saw a shift in the polls as Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservative support fell and the NDP's support rose. What was happening was that right-wing voters from the conservative parties decided they liked Martin while left-wing types in the Liberals decided that Martin was too right-wing and switched to the NDP.

This election, Martin decided to court the left-wing vote with health care promises, a child care program, and investment in wind power amongst other things. He wanted the left-wing vote to compensate for the lost right-wing vote. Unfortunately, the left-wing didn't buy it. They knew Martin was a right-winger. They weren't going to be taken as fools.

However, the right-wingers saw a liar in Martin; someone who espoused left-wing policies just to win. They weren't going to be taken for fools so they joined the real right-wing party.

Hence Martin lost both the right and the left and has only the middle and the die-hard Liberals left.

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Ad Astra Per Privatus

Chris Jones (email) at 02:28 AM

Fellow POlloI Nick Tam comments on the successful launch of SpaceShipOne and segues into discussing private space flight on Star Trek:

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Chocolate Swirl Cheesecake

Chris Jones (email) at 02:01 AM

Ian Welsh at Tilting at Windmills replies in Harper and Free Votes: Having Your Cake and Eating it Too to my Why Do You Just Not Get It?:

See - we don't know what every likely MP thinks on gay marriage, or abortion - or any of this. This makes Harper's reassurances meaningless. So anyone who is worried has every right to worry what would happen in the Conservatives were in power.

Harper is a radical who wants to change the way the government works in very fundamental ways. In the US they track Senators and House members votes religiously - because they matter. In Canada we don't, because all that really matters 99% of the time, is what the PM decides. We don't know how these people are going to vote if the Conservatives get in power. It is entirely appropriate to worry what crazy things they may decide to do. And I'm not limiting this to gay marriage or abortion - other than fiscal issues (which will be confidence votes per the Conservative platform) if a private member can get majority MP support - he can pass anything he wants.

Ian's right — the Conservatives do want to change how our Parliamentary system works, in reasonably fundamental ways. But the thing is, I think that's, on the whole, a good thing.

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An Apology, And Who I'm Voting For

Chris Jones (email) at 01:36 AM

First off, I should apologize for my recent silence here. I broke part of my elbow in an embarassing (mainly for its improbability and mundanity) commuting accident Monday evening, which has made it somewhat difficult to type, and thus, to post.

With that out of the way: several of you will know that I've been torn between voting Green and voting Conservative.

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June 24, 2004

Québec holiday

Mandos (email) at 09:58 AM

To our Québecois readers, if we have any, particularly those who may have been led here by my Trackbacks to Le Devoir, bonne fête nationale!

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En français, SVP

Mandos (email) at 09:34 AM

Some tidbits from Québec media:

An interesting note from La Presse:


Au Québec, les libéraux ont reculé de 19 points, qui sont allés au Bloc (hausse de 11 points) et au NPD (hausse de 8 points).
(It's actually a CP article, but what the heck.) It's very interesting that the NDP has acquired much of the Liberal vote in Québec. Not enough to take any seats, alas, but still an interesting phenomenon that not that much more than half was taken by the Bloc.

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Québec variations

Mandos (email) at 09:10 AM

Forgive us; we have been lax in posting over the past few days due to being busy. I in particular have been largely abandoned by my co-bloggers. I am growing resentful. My distinctness has not been acknowledged! I think I am achieving the winning conditions to hold a referendum on my separation. But I won't, for domination is my true goal. Indeed, I require THERMONUCLEAR ANNIHILATION!!!! (I hereby deprive Chris of the trademark on this with extreme prejudice.)

Ahem...

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June 21, 2004

Forests and Trees

Mandos (email) at 11:18 PM

I wanted to take issue with some of the Meisel article that Chris mentioned in the previous post. But then I decided that I'd only deal with the most important issue, which can be summed up succinctly:

What's the point of talking about political realignments and minority governments if you're only barely going to mention the sine qua non of minority governments: third parties? I mean, if we only had the Libs and the Reformatories, there'd be no reason to discuss this issue in the first place!

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Policy Options Roundup

Chris Jones (email) at 12:37 PM

This month's edition of Policy Options focusses on North American Integration and what the options & implications are for Canada. Particularly interesting articles:

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Two National Irresponsibilities

Mandos (email) at 12:27 AM

Take a look, for a moment, at this Liberal campaign ad that I saw one recent evening watching a show on French television. (It's in French, of course...) I won't bother with a detailed translation, but the gist of it is that

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June 20, 2004

Man and Harperman

Mandos (email) at 05:28 PM

A quickie:

Here's a response to the Harperman video.

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June 18, 2004

Harperman!

Mandos (email) at 08:41 AM

From the funny-third-party-election-video-department...

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There's A Simple Solution....

Chris Jones (email) at 03:05 AM

Mr. Kawanami writes below:

While I recognise that enforcement is virtually impossible, the limit on election coverage until the polls had closed in a given area was one which I considered reasonable.

A simpler solution: don't release results until after all the polls are closed. For added information-security, don't start counting until all the polls are closed.

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On Blackouts

Master of the Rolls (email) at 01:15 AM

So. Apparently results are not going to be blacked out this time around. While I'm sure this is a great victory for freedom of information, I'm thinking (in this election especially) that results may be influenced by this. By which I mean, if the Tories are cleaning up in Atlantic Canada and Ontario, I think you're going to see a lot more NDP and/or Green votes swing Liberal out west (particularly in BC and Saskatchewan, where the impact would be greater) in an attempt to thwart a Conservative government (of any permutation). This would fit with the tactic that the Grits have taken lately in their commercials and speeches. Make Harper appear scary enough, so that even if he picks up votes out east, maybe the western votes can help ensure a Liberal minority. Likewise (though, I doubt this will be a problem this year) we may see future elections where the turnout drops in the west, if majority governments are already sown up with the Quebec and Ontario vote. While I recognise that enforcement is virtually impossible, the limit on election coverage until the polls had closed in a given area was one which I considered reasonable.

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June 21, 2004 10:20 AM: "Unintended consequences" posted in response at freethought.ca.

June 17, 2004

Crack, meet Chris. Chris, crack.

Mandos (email) at 01:31 AM

In his response to semi-lucid Mike, Chris demonstrates that he is a victim of the manipulative faux populism that was the trademark of the Reform movement and that has [sarcasm]miraculously[/sarcasm] appeared in the alleged Conservative Party. Plus ça change, hein? One of the trademarks of this crack-based populism (implying that I believe that there can be non-crack-based populism) was the simplistic proposition that democracy=voting and apparently little else. Once the MP took his seat, the MP was bound effectively by nothing until the next election except by something called the "grassroots"; in practice, this means that party platforms mean little, and that parties could not be held to account for any espoused overarching principles.

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June 16, 2004

English debate

Mandos (email) at 12:11 AM

Well, Tilting at Windmills sort of sums up my thoughts on the English debate, though not entirely. For one thing, I'm not completely convinced that Duceppe has nothing to do during the English debate; the Québec media and punditry are almost certainly watching him, and IIRC a CBC radio report appeared to talk to some Québec voters who said that they didn't find a clear winner in the French debate and would watch the English one.

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June 15, 2004

Fafblog on Paul Martin

Mandos (email) at 10:50 PM

Yes, indeed, Fafnir has thought of everything, including the perfect way to describe Paul Martin:

Recently there has been trouble in Toronto since the old prime minister Jean Chretien quit an the new prime minister turned out to be a bunch of rabbits taped together in the shape of a prime minister and not in fact former Minister of Finance Paul Martin. I ask Jacques why weren't the bunch of rabbits allowed to serve as prime minister? Were Canadians anti-rabbites? "Sacre bleu, bon voyage," explains Jacques which makes it all a lot clearer. But now Canada has a problem because nobody was in charge and given the recent threat of an uprising from Eskimos, or as they prefer to be called, snow monsters, everybody is afraid of a coup.
And to think this prophetic vision was posted all the way back in early February!

I'll post about the debate and why Chris is on crack and maybe even a Tony Valeri picture later on.

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Twenty Minutes In

Chris Jones (email) at 06:23 PM

... and we've had some pile-ups on Harper by Layton and Martin on the social issues, with Harper coming out as well as he could, trying to make the distinction between him and the government, and even (gutsily!) giving an example of when he might use the notwithstanding clause.

Martin's looking pretty defensive so far on the sponsorship stuff, after some early attacks by Duceppe.

Oh, and Jack Layton looks impressively creepy when he's staring straight into the camera while gesturing as if he's groping someone standing right in front of him. Way too much hand movement there, Jack. And don't move your hand back and forth every second.

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Why Do You Just Not Get It?

Chris Jones (email) at 02:08 AM

Micheal Wilson writes:

During the last half hour Harper either started to define party policy on the spot, decided to start announcing party policy during the debate, or else he lost one of his marbles.

First, he declared that he would be having a free vote on the issue of gay marriage, then later told Layton that he(Harper) and Layton had opposite opinions on gay marriage. Since Layton is announced as supporting gay marriage, Harper thus said for the first time in the campaign that he is opposed.

Sigh. It's well-known that Harper is personally opposed to gay marriage. This isn't a surprise, he's been on record several times, nothing new here. It's also well-known that Harper says he would leave this up to a free vote in the House. Now, I know that this may come as a surprise to some of the more command-and-control types out there (Mandos, I'm looking at you), but when you have a free vote, it means that your MPs can vote as they wish without repercussions — they don't have to agree with you.

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June 16, 2004 09:16 AM: "Harper and Free Votes:
Having Your Cake and Eating it Too"
posted in response at Tilting at Windmills.

Obligatory Cheese Hat Posting

Mandos (email) at 01:24 AM

I should first mention semi-lucid political thoughts as another good take on the French debate. I am especially amused by his suggestion that Layton was on drugs. Yes, indeed, Layton smiled through the whole thing, a broad happy grin. Some people thought this was a good thing, like semi-lucid Mike (whose blog I like!). Others seemed to find it off-putting. At least he looked non-robotic, unlike Harper. Robotic doesn't go over well in Québec; Harper should have come in neon leotards and started singing 80s tunes, and then he might have gotten some MPs elected in Québec, even.

But no discussion of a debate involving Duceppe is complete without an obligatory posting of the infamous Cheese Hat:
First, it's a shower cap...
Actually, I think the poor fellow has gotten over the Cheese Hat Incident. But he does remind me of a vampire. He wants to drink my blood, doesn't he?

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French Debate

Mandos (email) at 01:10 AM

So. The French debate has occured. Various people have instantly opined now, including babble and Tilting at Windmills, not to mention the millions of pundits who instantly graced our screens in both languages after the debate.

I concur with most of the blog and discussion board world in that the format is awful. It was simply not a format designed to deal with substantive issues.

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June 13, 2004

Reach For The Stars -- Riding-Specific Election Polls

Secretary of Snark (email) at 10:10 PM

Do "star candidates" matter? Are candidates with high public profiles more likely to win elections? A recent series of polls by COMPAS Inc. seems to indicate so.

As opposed to the usual boring polls in Canadian elections, the COMPAS polls (commissioned by CanWest Global) focus on a few specific ridings across Canada. From these polls, one sees that some candidates have comfortable leads in their ridings (here are the COMPAS reports (Acrobat PDF files) for Ujjal Dosanjh, Jack Layton, Ed Broadbent, Belinda Stronach, and Scott Brison). Others, however, do not (Anne McLellan).

One of the COMPAS questions is worth a further look:

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June 15, 2004 08:46 PM: "Bow James Bow Election Poll, Phase II" posted in response at Bow. James Bow..

June 10, 2004

Special Ballots for that Special Someone

Secretary of Snark (email) at 07:20 PM

Since I just could not wait until June 28th, I already went out and voted. [immaturity] Nyah, nyah! I voted before you![/immaturity]

Ahem. This is the second consecutive federal election where I've voted by "special ballot". If you haven't heard about the "special ballot", here's a bit of background:

  • The current "special ballot" was legislated by Parliament in 1993.

  • This ballot allows more people to participate in elections, from vacationers, to business people, to citizens temporarily outside Canada.

  • In 2000, nearly 200,000 Canadians voted by special ballot.

  • Many of these voters were Armed Forces personnel; however, many others (including me) were simply "out of town" on Voting Day.

  • Anyone who is eligible to vote can vote by special ballot! Hate waiting in lines on Election Day? Want to avoid that annoying poll clerk who appears in your riding during every election? Well, try the special ballot!

I found the Special Ballot very straightforward, and kudos to Elections Canada for implementing an effective ballot. Here's a little "How To Vote By Special Ballot" photo-diary:

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Des regrets, j'en ai quelques

Chris Jones (email) at 02:25 AM

Sarah Kelly comments on the glory days of University of Alberta political activity, most notably with respect to the recent brou-ha-ha about Malcom Azania (the USENET post that started all this).

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June 08, 2004

Speaking of Being Stoned...

Mandos (email) at 10:30 PM

... I have discovered Fafblog! the world's only source for Fafblog. It is indeed a blog of much Fafness. Observe:

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June 07, 2004

Munchies

Chris Jones (email) at 11:30 PM

For those among you who get the munchies when thinking about the Marijuana Party [platform], live in hunger no more — Crescat Sententia has a (simple) recipe for breakfast.

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June 06, 2004

Military Spending and its Discontents

Mandos (email) at 12:20 AM

I would first like to say that I believe that the military does need more spending. First and foremost, old equipment must be replaced with new. Secondly, if wages have fallen behind in certain sectors of the military, they should be increased.

Perhaps there is also room for the expansion of our military capacity. But I am dubious about some of the reasons that Mustafa Hirji presents to us. The Safety of Soldiers and Soldiers' Health and Welfare reasons I have already assented to above. I would like to leave the Peacekeeping issue with a cautionary note: not all "peacekeeping" missions are necessarily in the interests of peace; participating in such missions is not an inherent good. But I will for now give this the benefit of the doubt.

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June 04, 2004

Canada's Funniest Political Videos

Nicholas Tam (email) at 03:09 PM

While Points of Information is still in the middle of its video blitz, I thought I might point out something that was posted on Vote Out Anders earlier this week. For those of you who are unaware, there is currently a major third-party campaign in Calgary—West slamming controversial Conservative incumbent Rob Anders, one that has garnered more local publicity than all three candidate-fielding parties combined.

Legend had it that Mr Anders' political career began with an appointment as a paid heckler working against the Democrats in a US Senate campaign ten years ago, wearing a Pinocchio nose, no less. It's actually even quirkier than it sounds, as you can see in this Windows Media Player video. Maybe one day the Blue Fairy will turn him into a real elected representative.

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Pacifique; différents; Ed! rap

Mandos (email) at 09:41 AM

One minor quibble: I don't think that pacifique means pacifist. IIRC, I think it just means peaceful.

Since I have occasionally subjected myself to such aspects of Québec popular culture such as La Fureur and Belle et Bum, I can say that these ads are entirely in keeping with the, ahem, distinct tastes of the Québec television viewer. I am only surprised that the singers were dressed in somber black, rather than neon leotards or something. Verily, Québec television fashion sense is beyond compare. OK, well, La Fureur is significantly worse in sartorial terms than Belle et Bum, but the shows are still awfully cheesy.

Check out this NDP video (Quicktime; there's RealVideo and WMV formats on the NDP web site as well). It's an...interesting...ad for Ed Broadbent that I'm not sure has appeared yet on Ottawa local television. It actually comes from a This Hour Has 22 Minutes segment that never aired—one of those rap things. I think it way outdoes the Bloc ad in terms of amusingosity.

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Campaign Theme Songs

Secretary of Snark (email) at 01:12 AM

While watching campaign coverage of the Bloc Québécois, I noticed a catchy, yet annoyingly repetitive song in the background. "Maybe they have a theme song," I snorted.

Unfortunately, while web-browsing today, I discovered that it was no joke. At the very top of the their website, the Bloc has links to their theme song, "Parce-qu'on est différents" ("Because we're different"; here's a QuickTime link, and here's a WindowsMedia version. A high-speed connection is needed (more than 15 MB of files!), but it's certainly worth it in this case.).

The music video is an interesting approach to campaigning, and is worth further analysis, despite its cheeziness. I also challenge anyone to watch this entire video without giggling.

The video

Bloc Québécois music starsThe 3-minute video begins with a gigantic "Bloc Québécois" logo on the screen. We then fade to a recording studio, where six singers are hanging around, going over their song lyrics. The group is rather young, composed of mostly twenty-somethings (plus one creepy-looking guy with a goatee). The camera pans to the song lyrics, in particular the line, "Car le Bloc est différent".

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Passing Judgement

Mandos (email) at 12:24 AM

I should note that Mustafa Hirji's post has mostly been filled with a tactical evaluation of Harper and his Reformatories. The horse-race aspect of this is, I suppose, fun, and I think it's OK to indulge in this kind of analysis once in a while. But ultimately it is not possible to separate the ideological components and moral evaluations from the analysis of political tactics, and I think that some of these things should be kept up front.

Mustafa Hirji's post, fortunately, also made the connection that it is the overall tactics of the party that matter as well. And likewise, moral/ideological evaluation of Harper's politics should also be tempered with a knowledge of what the candidates for the party that backs him also intend to do. His "compromises" with the electorate cannot be seen in a vacuum; the ideological flag is often carried by someone else, and it will almost certainly appear once the "lobsters are in the pot," as a certain former Québec politician once said.

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June 03, 2004

Harper's Challenge in the Weeks Ahead

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 10:08 PM

The seemingly partisan Liberal Marc Dumouchel takes a run at the allegedly-partisan Conservatives Alex Abboud and Andy Grabia with a prediction that the Conservatives have peaked and that Conservatives fortunes will depend on increased scrutiny Harper will face in the near future. Marc proceeds to outline key issues that he thinks will hurt Harper.

Well, I can't disagree with Marc that Harper is going to face increased scrutiny and that his fortunes will depend on that. Harper's been getting a ridiculously easy ride so far. Of course he'll be under more scrutiny since the Conservatives are in a statistical tie with the Liberals, including in Ontario. That's not much of a prediction. (Now, it would be if Marc were predicting the opposite—that would be unexpected.) What's more interesting is Marc's analysis of the issues that, he claims, will hurt Harper.

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June 02, 2004

Military Spending

Mustafa Hirji (email) at 12:31 AM

Samantha Power writes in opposition to the recently-announced Conservative Party Defense Plan. Specifically, Ms. Power doesn't think increased spending is necessary to achieve what she believes is the goal of the Canadian Forces:

…maintaining a small "homeland"…force as well as maintaining the peacekeeping initiatives to support UN initiatives and other international stability measures.

Two years ago, I would have agreed wholeheartedly with Ms. Power. In fact, at that time, I'd probably have suggested that Canada should take a serious look at keeping any military force besides light infantry (used in peacekeeping, humanitarian work, and natural disaster relief) and the coast guard (used in keeping the Spanish out of our fishing grounds). At that time, I would have argued that we did not need a defense force in Canada since if we were ever attacked, the US would come to our aid with their vastly superior military. About 18 months ago, I started to realize the folly of this position.

These are the reasons why I changed my mind:

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June 01, 2004

In Response to Mandos . . .

Master of the Rolls (email) at 02:00 AM

Before getting into matters electoral, I think I shall respond to a couple of posts by Mandos.

Firstly, The First Catilinarian is amazing in Latin (and not half bad in English). I haven't read all of the Pro Caelio in Latin, however what I did read was fairly amusing (particularly given the politics involved). However, the Pro Archia would have to be my favourite. Just reading it should make anyone with a Humanities background proud.

Second, Ostriches are spiteful quasi-prehistoric bastards. They do taste good, however. The fact that you can ride them is cool, the fact that they can buck you off less so. The fact that they taste good makes up for it, however.

In terms of the election, I for one am saddened that the Chris Jones of Canadian Federal Politics, John C. Crosbie, has decided not to run for the Tories after all. This really would have livened up the race, and would have provided a riding that "everyone would be watching" similar to Calgary Centre in 2000. That title will likely now fall to Toronto-Danforth, and let's be honest, none of the candidates there have the same charisma as Crosbie. While "Paul Martin killed homeless people" is certainly controversial (I'm aware that his statement was more complex than that), it doesn't have the same headline appeal and snap to it as "I don't speak Chinese either". Not to mention that now the Tories need to find someone to run in Avalon. At any rate, the election lost the potential to become a lot more interesting. Pity.

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